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作者: bhx987 時間: 2014-11-7 02:47:39 標題: 超級大條新聞，美國防部主導南韓終止BAE為F16升級計畫

本帖最後由 bhx987 於 2014-11-7 11:29 編輯

原文出自Defense news

Nov. 5, 2014 - 03:45AM | By AARON MEHTA

South Korea, Pentagon Kill BAE F-16 Upgrade Contract

WASHINGTON — At the request of South Korean officials, the Pentagon has officially canceled an F-16 upgrade contract with BAE Systems, paving the way for South Korea to recompete the program for competitor Lockheed Martin.

South Korea’s arms agency says it “temporarily halted” the contract with BAE, not canceled it. But the move is construed as a de facto cancellation here.

The Pentagon announced Wednesday that the contract, which covered “Phase 1” of the planned upgrade of 134 KF-16 jets, would be terminated “for convenience.”

Because the contract was conducted through a foreign military sale, the US government had to cancel on behalf of South Korea, but the move is driven at the behest of Seoul, which two weeks ago began complaining of unexpected price increases on Phase 2 of the planned upgrade.

Kim Si-cheo, a spokesman for the South Korean Defense Acquisition Program Administration, said “after consultations with the US government, we told BAE Systems to suspend the upgrade work, based on an assessment that it would be better not to be continued any longer under the current situation.”

The spokesman said his agency is in talks with the US over the cost issues.

“No decision has been made regarding the cancellation of our government’s contract with the US,” he said, adding it will re-consider cancellation of the deal should the upgrade work proceed as agreed to in the original contract. “We will make a final decision after a thorough review of the costs that have already been spent and other financial issues.”

Kim said his agency will start negotiations with Lockheed Martin for a fresh deal to upgrade the fleet of 134 KF-16 aircraft.

“We’ll review how much it would cost if a contract is signed with Lockheed Martin, but our best-case scenario is to keep the original contract with BAE Systems.”

When BAE won the contract, which includes a series of avionics and radar upgrades, it was seen as a major breakthrough for the company. Lockheed Martin, the prime on the F-16, was thought to have a lock on the lucrative upgrade market for the jet. The program appeared to be on track through most of this year, as Phase 1 began and negotiations for Phase 2 got under way.

So it was unexpected in October when top South Korean officials began publicly complaining about what they described as hidden cost jumps. Military officials there claimed the US government added about US $470 million and BAE Systems about $280 million in costs that were not part of the original agreement for Phase 2.

What seemed like a potentially minor argument over costs quickly spiraled, leading to Wednesday’s official cancellation of the contract.

A BAE spokesman said in a statement the company was “disappointed“ by the decision, and emphasized the work already being completed under Phase 1 of the contract.

“We made it clear throughout the government-to-government discussions that we were committed to our firm-fixed-price contract for the overall scope of work agreed upon by both the US government and Republic of Korea last year,” spokesman Neil Franz wrote. “We remain confident that we could have performed the remaining work on the program in an efficient and cost-effective manner.

“Unfortunately, the program was impacted by Korea’s strict budget limitations and the US Air Force’s conservative approach to the overall program cost.”

The big winner appears to be Lockheed, which has been operating behind the scenes since cracks began to appear between BAE and South Korea.

One source told Defense News that Lockheed has offered significant technical support for Korea’s indigenous KF-X fighter design in exchange for choosing the Lockheed upgrade suite.

A spokesman for Lockheed said any specifics regarding the KF-16 contract would have to be addressed to officials in Seoul, but indicated the company stands ready to step up if required.

“We believe we are uniquely qualified as the original equipment manufacturer and design authority to provide best value to our F-16 operators around the world,” spokesman Mark Johnson wrote in a statement. “You will need to speak to the ROKAF and USG on specific questions regarding their F-16 upgrade program.”

The loss of the contract is bad enough for BAE, but there may be further fallout. One South Korean military official told Defense News that BAE runs the risk of being designated an “undesired firm,” which could limit its participation in future arms deals in South Korea.

It also creates a potentially messy situation for the Pentagon, as a pair of KF-16 C/D Block 52 jets have already been sent to a BAE factory in Fort Worth, Texas, to be equipped with an up-to-date mission computer, cockpit display and other avionics systems under the Phase 1 contract.

The US announcement said the Pentagon would work with BAE to close out the contract; what costs that could involve are unclear.

http://www.defensenews.com/article/20141105/DEFREG03/311050037

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大致上是說美國國防部主導下，南韓暫時停止與BAE的F16升級計畫，改由與洛馬公司展開新的合約商議動作，

南韓抱怨有些隱性成本出現無法接受，但也希望先保留BAE合約，此舉並且希望換取洛馬對於南韓次世代戰機KF-X計畫的技術幫忙條件，

BAE甚至已經運送F16 C/D Block 52去進行第一階段改裝，目前情勢混亂還未明朗化。

如果八成不變的話，我國版本的F16升級計畫多了一個大分母，況且可能還要付我國些授權金，只剩下原廠升級計畫的話，我國等於賺翻了

有南韓空軍幫忙背書，相信整體成本與計畫內容都會有改善，甚至未來歐洲大批上千架的F16升級計畫都可能以洛馬為主，誰說研發沒有回報

天佑台灣，國軍F16升級計畫越來越樂觀了。

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作者: 一代英豪 時間: 2014-11-7 10:59:31

這個萬惡老美真的吃相難看~~可是剛好爽道我們.

作者: chris1490 時間: 2014-11-7 11:09:16

本帖最後由寒冰神話於 2014-11-7 11:28 編輯

偶爾讓我國爽一下不為過

作者: cat8125900 時間: 2014-11-7 12:22:51

話說~
不曉得南韓方面的官方說法是什麼??

作者: K988 時間: 2014-11-7 12:29:25

沒想到美國養的這條韓狗也會反咬主人一口敢跟主人說不.真不容易

作者: k20011220 時間: 2014-11-7 13:28:36

K988 發表於 2014-11-7 10:29
沒想到美國養的這條韓狗也會反咬主人一口敢跟主人說不.真不容易

說不的原因是要換洛馬的技術

這 give & take , 南朝鮮做得比我們好
我們對美帝常常是 give , but take nothing back ...

作者: bhx987 時間: 2014-11-7 14:02:58

K988 發表於 2014-11-7 12:29
沒想到美國養的這條韓狗也會反咬主人一口敢跟主人說不.真不容易

就是開始選BAE方案現在被主人鞭打後才回來吃狗飼料~

作者: m.j 時間: 2014-11-7 15:11:17

泡菜原本偷笑花16億美元就能升級
現在發現原來是上桌準備要被宰了~~

洛馬玩一些小把戲泡菜升級費用
就跟我國差不多搞不好還更多(阿們)

作者: bhx987 時間: 2014-11-7 16:16:34

m.j 發表於 2014-11-7 15:11
泡菜原本偷笑花16億美元就能升級
現在發現原來是上桌準備要被宰了~~

這種低價搶單的手段泡菜國最會搞別人了，沒想到卻被人也搞，

等你上鉤後再加價勒索，最後騎虎難下任其宰割

作者: la620935 時間: 2014-11-7 16:24:58

有沒有爽到？？再說吧....反正哪家貢獻的利益大.......就是哪家......管你和約進行中.....一腳踩就是踩........

作者: gny001002 時間: 2014-11-7 17:20:04

本帖最後由寒冰神話於 2014-11-8 01:13 編輯

哀!國防受制於人的悲哀,看看我國就是了(除了一些裝備例外),永遠只能做別人的看門狗祈禱國家自立自強!
不過能便宜就便宜吧!F-16要活耀我國空防20年了,除非有新的IDF了!

作者: bhx987 時間: 2014-11-7 17:44:14

本帖最後由寒冰神話於 2014-11-8 01:13 編輯

內外原因都有，外在就是國際上遭到大陸地區當局打壓，各國不賣新式武器，美軍又忌諱ROCF會洩漏機密給PLA，降階版與陽春版國軍又不要，

內在問題在政府不願意相信自己人，只想交保護費請美國協防，死都不願意把錢留著可以開發出更多武器，如天弓天劍這類好又便宜的武器。

外在問題無法改變就從自己先做起，當自己看得起自己外人才會看得起你。

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