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標題: 勇鷹高級噴射教練機出廠典禮 [列印本頁]

作者: 101101 時間: 2019-9-30 14:33:36 標題: 勇鷹高級噴射教練機出廠典禮

本文最後由寒冰神話於 2019-9-30 23:17 編輯

勇鷹高級噴射教練機出廠典禮
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空軍新式高級噴射教練機 (Advanced Jet Trainer, AJT) 今(24)日於台中漢翔公司沙鹿廠區舉行出廠典禮，典禮由總統蔡英文女士親自主持，並命名為「勇鷹」教練機，預計明年六月進行首飛，這也是睽違近四十年後再次有自製的高級噴射教練機出廠。

新式高級噴射教練機以「勇鷹」為名，象徵勇敢的飛鷹，代表著空軍的忠勇軍風與老鷹兇猛象徵結合，命名的過程由網路公開投稿、票選達到全民參與的目的，機身以國旗的三原色藍、白、紅ˊ為主，配合勇鷹之名，利用機背及機腹呈現幾何圖形，展現出飛機將一飛衝天、勇往直前意涵。

新式高級噴射教練機承襲IDF低阻力及高攻角的氣動力特性，以此為基礎發展外型，並且修改IDF設計上的缺陷，搭配漢翔與美方合資的ITEC公司生產無後燃器版本的F124-200TW發動機，全機結構也重新設計佈局，使用大量復合材料，以減輕飛機的整體重量，提升飛行性能，藉由改變機翼剖面以達到降低進場速度的效果，增加飛行的穩定性，使飛行學員可迅速掌握基本的飛行技術，機身模線也配合修改加高以增加內燃油的乘載量，延長滯空時間及增加飛行航程，主起落架部分外擴，以增加地面滑行的穩定性。

未來新式高級噴射教練機配合政策將三階段三機種精進改為三階段兩機種訓練模式，取代AT-3與F-5E/F作為高級噴射飛行訓練及部隊飛行訓練的角色，並藉由中科院研發的地面補助訓練系統 (GBTS) 中的飛行模擬器及後勤維護電腦補助教學系統，可有效節省實機操作的維護成本並提高訓練成效，也藉由完整的地面側及飛行測試數據，提升整體機隊管理的成效，而新式高教機與IDF的零組件擁有高共通性及相同的整體後勤體制，因此可解決消失性商源及後勤補保的問題。

↑ 任務計劃系統 (Mission Planning & Debriefing System, MPDS)

↑ 地面監控系統 (Real Time Monitoring System, RTMS)

↑ 飛行訓練管理系統 (Flight Training Management System, FTMS)

↑ 新式高級噴射教練機模擬機。

↑ Honeywell/ITEC F124-200TW引擎。

↑ 新式高級噴射教練機正式亮相。

↑ 總統於在新式高級噴射教練機上貼上「勇鷹」命名。

↑ 總統致詞。

↑ 總統登上新機視察。

↑ 新式高級噴射教練機 (1)

↑ 新式高級噴射教練機 (2)

↑ 新式高級噴射教練機 (3)

↑ 新式高級噴射教練機垂直尾翼漆上象徵勇敢的飛鷹。
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好事多磨，歷經多年轉折研發，以IDF雙座為基礎研發的高教機原型機總算出廠了，也為未來航空研發保持研發能量，加油！！

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作者: 101101 時間: 2019-9-30 16:46:53

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LEh0HiQ4LE[/youtube]

作者: 天天吃ㄚ鈣 時間: 2019-10-1 01:08:57

圖真多 @@
我比較期望是全新構型,而不是用降階修改的方式
從無到有,像AT3跟IDF一樣,這樣設計製造能力才能精進,
用已有的再向下修改,對航空技術只是保存基本而不是提昇,
如只是為了士氣或延續能量,就另當別論了

作者: matrix4 時間: 2019-10-1 11:31:12

本文最後由寒冰神話於 2019-10-1 22:18 編輯

還要考慮時間緊迫和經濟效益,我國自製武器幾乎只能自銷,每一樣都從無到有太傷荷包
如果此一論點成立,美軍就不會F15 F16 F18 一直魔改

作者: K988 時間: 2019-10-2 18:50:45

當教練機或許還是OK的.專家推測戰時或許可掛彈上陣!閹割板的引擎+雷達上天當活把嗎?
單架造價約3300萬美金真的不便宜自行研發就是傷本.希望藉此有多多培養到新的設計人員

作者: eclair 時間: 2019-10-2 20:20:20

本文最後由 eclair 於 2019-10-2 20:22 編輯

3300萬美金還好啦，現在戰機.教練機價格其實已經不比以往了

真的生產量很大才有機會降一些，不然看看JAS-39近幾年的報價也是至少6~7000萬美金左右

T-5出廠看似風光，但卻更加深了很多人的疑問

光是看的到的就有後座高度根本還是沒改高

問到的降落速度偏快的問題還是存在似乎沒改善多少

倒飛重失速的隱憂也還是沒得到一個正面的回應

其他機身用複材減重.減裝備.增加油箱容量的方式去強迫增加滯空時間(而且是否真的達標都還不知道)，也換來了是否能耐學員惡操(像是常見得新手重落地)等更多疑問

很多問題都是大家從漢翔半途搶標成功踢掉M-346後，一直都在關注是否會大幅修正的部分，隨著原型出來後有一種漢翔根本就沒打算真的從根本上去解決這些問題，只是在F-CK-1的基礎上疊床架修補成堪用就交差了事的感覺...

作者: jaws9511 時間: 2019-10-4 08:49:59

後座比前座低，是要如何教飛?

作者: kds129 時間: 2019-10-4 19:56:42

jaws9511 發表於 2019-10-4 08:49
後座比前座低，是要如何教飛?

不能阿
不過你看過教練機的後座比前座低的?

作者: 101101 時間: 2019-10-5 00:45:59

只花了兩年的時間，就要將原型機作好，當然會大量使用現成的零組件(研發團隊又不是每個人都是鋼鐵人東尼·史塔克...)，這只是第一架驗證概念的原型機，等到量產應該還會有很多細部的優化，希望大家能給研發團隊多一點時間和鼓勵！

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作者: eclair 時間: 2019-10-5 07:32:06

本文最後由 eclair 於 2019-10-5 07:33 編輯

這不是使用現成零組件的問題，航空飛行器的框體或是結構件幾乎都是有下訂單才有生產的東西，尤其非漢翔自產的部分，沒有漢翔供料是沒材料可以生產(有要求只能用漢翔提供的材料)，更不用說還有很多是全刻件或是雷射/水刀台上切出來的客訂品，不會有誰有會去屯那個生產機數一完成就用不到的庫存，原型機這個樣式出來後就幾乎是定型了
明年試飛如果不如人意要修改(尤其後座高問題實際上是要整個重拉上機身線型)，等於風洞等模擬要全部重做，實際上比一次大改到好還花上更多時間
如果漢翔只是想趕期程交貨，而不是想到這66機是會服役數十年中對所有飛官培育的影響，當年就不該信誓旦旦都會修改好，尤其當年漢翔還故意拉3D裡的後座高度，拉到超過座艙框以外讓人以為真的會修改上機身跟座艙罩到適合教練機的線型，結果原型出來卻根本幾乎沒改

其他的啥機內都是全新的，機電都是新式的這些一點都不值得炫耀，F-CK-1生產年代的舊時代機電跟電子本來就隨時代進步而汰換了，現在想買還不見得買的到(停產)，拿國際廠商現成的產品去整合出來的東西自然是新的機電內裝啊

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作者: 20070804-1 時間: 2019-10-5 21:15:18

後座高度一定有比前座高 ,
只是高的夠不夠的問題 .....

作者: 無雙關鍵 時間: 2019-10-7 16:22:36

說個笑話~~~當初勇鷹確定名子時有一些質疑聲浪，他們覺得名子勇鷹有(擁英)的政治操作在.............吃飽太閒逆？？？(他們比較喜歡黑鷹
言歸正傳，國造當然要支持！！

作者: a469822 時間: 2019-10-8 00:08:19

當初會有國機國造有一個原因是義大利方面對M346軍事武裝不放行,只給純教練部分,讓空軍想要教練及部訓單一機種無法實現,而教練機漢翔一直都有能力所以才有國機國造

作者: spacex 時間: 2019-10-8 13:47:12

20070804-1 發表於 2019-10-5 21:15
後座高度一定有比前座高 ,
只是高的夠不夠的問題 .....

後座有比前座高十公分左右，但還是不到業界標準的30公分

但有機個問題
1.有沒有裝影像鏡頭?
2.倒飛重失速解了沒?
3.進場速度減到多少?
4.續航時間增加了多少?

這些答案可能幾年後才會知道

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作者: eclair 時間: 2019-10-8 17:47:57

本文最後由 eclair 於 2019-10-8 18:10 編輯

spacex 發表於 2019-10-8 13:47
後座有比前座高十公分左右，但還是不到業界標準的30公分

第一個問題其實出場儀式時已經看到有解了(不過是個人最不想看到的解法)

前座左側有新增一組看似攝影機的設備

座艙罩中框有裝設一台螢幕(似乎是可翻動的)

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作者: 101101 時間: 2019-11-17 21:11:02

本文最後由 101101 於 2019-11-19 00:30 編輯

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcR9_6aiHJU[/youtube]
國機國造歷史 22:00~24:30
新式高教機組裝 25:00~29:30

作者: sexlee 時間: 2019-12-3 15:06:37

飛機很漂亮也很美,但有一張臉破壞畫面

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