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作者: william810    時間: 2021-6-28 11:48:34     標題: 菲律賓將獲得F16 Block 70/72 戰機

本文最後由 寒冰神話 於 2021-6-29 03:48 編輯

看來不久後我國就不是亞洲唯一擁有 F16 Block 70/72 的國家了



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作者: oneeast00    時間: 2021-6-28 15:28:35

本文最後由 oneeast00 於 2021-6-28 16:21 編輯

菲律賓 得到買老美12架全新F16 block70/72,的綠燈!!!
美國國防安全合作署(DSCA)公告

該24.3億美刀綠燈,包含...
10架單座F16C 與 2架雙座F16D
15顆APG-83 AESA 雷達....
24顆AIM-120C7 or C8實彈 ...
6顆Sinper蒐瞄 Pod
6顆Mk82, 3顆LJDAM炸彈升級套件,
當然還有15顆引擎

另外老美還另外開放行單
12發AGM-84L1空射魚叉飛彈實彈 !!(加上2訓練彈共1.2億美刀, 平均一顆空射魚叉實彈要價1000萬美刀~3億NT....)
24發AIM-9X實彈(4240萬美刀)

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1.要注意一點,
DSCA 只是白宮單方面公告的"綠燈","放行單"...
但是...
DSCA並沒有要求對方一定要乖乖付錢買的義務..
DSCA更不是有法律約束力的合約

不少"人緣好"國家在國際找多國競標戰機時
結果還沒出來 白宮急著放出DSCA拉票+廣告...

DSCA 可以看成華府的和藹善意,
但....未必代表菲律賓態度..

後續要不要簽合約買下去,以及 要一次買多少,都有變數...

該DSCA其實屬於
菲律賓空軍MRF未來多用途戰機計畫 的競標方 ,
菲律賓 目前仍在 JAS-39新機, F16新機 角力中....

而且,
菲律賓MRF當初的預算規劃額度是12架戰機12億USD....
然老美F-16新機在本DSCA內已漲到12架要收26億美刀.... 從這現實來看,
菲律賓買F-16新機的機率越來越渺茫....JAS-39完勝的機率越來越高...

美同意出售F-16戰鬥機 菲律賓反稱"太貴考慮中"
https://news.ltn.com.tw/news/world/breakingnews/3583053

老美 2020.10 開給芬蘭賣F35的DSCA...
https://www.dsca.mil/press-media ... ir-missiles-and-air

芬蘭戰機競標..歐洲戰機勝出... F-35還是落選 2021.02.....
https://www.chinatimes.com/amp/realtimenews/20210201005149-260417


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2.
有趣的是:不同於國軍在DSCA前就在官網("我不老",拉票廣告),公開明確使用GE的block70+F110答案
菲律賓這批新機,從DSCA來看,要選GE還是PW,似乎背後還在角力,還沒喬好....
目前國際上block70/72新機已簽約訂單,選GE/PW的都有

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3.從DSCA公告的彈藥比例來看
這批F16應該會明顯偏重制空制海並得到老美默許...
另外老美賣給菲律賓的AMRAAM已經出現C8選項,
國軍(C5 or C7)不妨也爭取跟進升級AMRAAM....

值得注意的是,
雖然AIM-120C7,魚叉 老早已出口親中共的巴基斯坦
但APG83 AESA賣給菲律賓,還是有點意外
這可能代表 SABR在美軍眼中的機密層級/能力 有限....

以菲律賓與中共的反覆關係,
菲律賓國內政經,法治,甚至軍方內部紀律管制混亂
這批雷達真交貨後,會不會被洩密給中共,值得觀察....

https://www.dsca.mil/press-media ... block-7072-aircraft

The Government of the Philippines has requested to buy ten (10) F-16C Block 70/72 aircraft; two (2) F-16D Block 70/72 aircraft; fifteen (15) F100-PW-229EEP engines or F110-GE-129D engines; fifteen (15) Improved Programmable Display Generators (iPDG); fifteen (15) AN/APG-83 Advanced Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) Scalable Agile Beam Radars (SABR); fifteen (15) Modular Mission Computers 7000AH; fifteen (15) LN-260 Embedded GPS/INS (EGI) with SAASM and PPS; twenty-four (24) Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missiles (AMRAAM) AIM-120C-7/C-8 or equivalent; one (1) AIM-120 Guidance Section; forty-eight (48) LAU-129 missile launchers; three (3) KMU-572 Laser Joint Direct Attack Munition (LJDAM) tail kits; six (6) Mk-82 500lb bombs; six (6) Mk-82 500lb Inert training bombs; six (6) FMU-152 or FMU-139 fuzes; six (6) Sniper Advanced Targeting Pods (ATP) or Litening ATP; fifteen (15) Multifunctional Information Display System Joint Tactical Radio System (MIDS-JTRS) aircraft terminals, and; fifteen (15) M61A1 Vulcan Anti-Aircraft 20mm guns. Also included are AN/ARC-238 radios; Advanced Identification Friend or Foe with Combined Interrogator Transponder and Mode 5; Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing Systems II (JHMCS II) or Scorpion Hybrid Optical-based Inertial Tacker (HObIT); Integrated Electronic Warfare Suite; Electronic Combat International Security Assistance Program (ECISAP) support; AN/ALE-47 Countermeasure Dispenser Systems (CMDS); Joint Mission Planning Systems (JMPS) or equivalent; AIM-120 CATM; LAU-118 launchers with Advanced Launcher Interface Computer (ALIC); LAU-117 missile launchers; DSU-38 Precision Laser Guided Sensor for LJDAM; Harpoon interface adapter kits; PGU-28 High Explosive Incendiary (HEI) ammunition; PGU-27 ammunition training rounds (non HEI); Cartridge Actuated Devices/Propellant Actuated Devices (CAD/PAD); ARD-446 impulse cartridges; ARD-863 impulse cartridges; BBU-36/B impulse cartridges; BBU-35/B impulse cartridges; MK-124 smoke flares; MJU-7/B Flare Cartridge L463; BRU‐61 Bomb Racks; BRU‐57 bomb racks; MAU‐12 bomb racks and TER‐9A triple ejection racks; weapons support, test equipment, and missile containers; chaff and flare; Night Vision Devices (NVD) and support equipment and spares; secure communications; cryptographic equipment;

The estimated total cost is $2.43 billion.
https://www.dsca.mil/press-media ... d-block-ii-missiles
The Government of the Philippines has requested to buy twelve (12) AGM-84L-1 Harpoon Block II air launched missiles; and two (2) ATM-84L-1 Harpoon Block II Exercise missiles.

The estimated total cost is $120 million.
https://www.dsca.mil/press-media ... i-tactical-missiles
The Government of the Philippines has requested to buy twenty-four (24) AIM-9X Sidewinder Block II tactical missiles
twenty-four (24) AIM-9X Block II Captive Air Training Missiles (CATMs); six (6) Tactical Guidance Units; and ten (10) Captive Air Training Missile (CATM) Guidance Units.

The estimated total cost is $42.4 million

作者: K988    時間: 2021-6-28 22:27:51

至少菲律賓是老美的盟友要買到F-16Block 70/72絕不是問題老共也不會去干涉打壓 問題出在菲律賓有沒有錢去買!
目前美國是要賣菲律賓沒說一定要買 所以還不一定成功
作者: 大寮    時間: 2021-6-28 23:23:45

菲律賓是買得起問題是養不起  整個國家軍公教警從上至下貪污嚴重  這些年空軍好不容易買到韓製戰鬥機才擠上超音速戰力  搞不好還要飛來台灣做保修及維護
作者: eclair    時間: 2021-6-29 00:07:53

菲律賓有回應嫌太貴要再看其他機種考慮考慮
反正菲律賓MRF計畫早就拖了N多年也不急再多觀望一下,計畫名單裡F16.SU-35/MIG35跟JAS 39C/D/NG都是可能的選項
作者: sos3331    時間: 2021-8-8 10:45:04

全配或是閹割版的才是最重要的吧?




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